you know what really sux, when living in scandinavia?..

Post by **:FI:Gurberly** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:30 pm

copied from BBC website

If a litre of unleaded petrol costs 85p, 21.7p will be the production costs and profit, around 51p will be duty and 12.5p will be VAT on top of all that.

£
Production/Refiner profits £0.217 25%
Duty £0.510 60%
VAT/Sales Tax £0.125 15%
£0.852 100%

Sorry about the table... hard to do on a board... approx 75% of the pump price is tax.

Read it and weep.

:FI:Spitsfire · Post by **:FI:Spitsfire** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:33 pm

try getting insurance over here as a 17yr old!
most places for full cover is around £2000
hopefully I'll get under a grand with lil insurance with a spicalised company

Beowolff · Post by **Beowolff** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:33 pm

$2.17 per gallon here in Tenn. was 2.21 a few days ago, then dropped a bit (but expected to rise even higher in a week or ten days.) that's for regular unleaded, of course. mid-grade is 2.25, premium is 2.30. Disel is 2.30...

its pretty rough on us. thing about here, is that we really have no mass transportation systems like they do in the big cities. yeah, a local city-wide bus system in some of the larger cities like Nashville or Memphis... even Jackson has one but it does not go all over town. no rail lines that go local. no subways. and Jackson, though a fairly big city (in a country living sort of way) has only a couple of taxi cabs... pretty short shift on us clods. and no matter where you work at around here, its pretty well a given that you'll be TOO far to ride a bicycle or walk. so paying whatever they demand is a have to thing if you're gonna work and pay your bills and maybe eat occasionally.

ah, guess i could ride one of my goats to work. take a bit...say, couple of hours (maybe more if stop to let the goat refuel on side of the road grass and such) but it might get me there eventually.

i think we're all getting gouged. but what to do? they have us by the balls!

Beowolff

:FI:Heloego · Post by **:FI:Heloego** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:33 am

...the average price per gallon (2.68 liters) is $2.28.

Works out to $.85 US per liter.

Compares quite favourably to Euro prices, yet we still complain.

Post by **Deathsledge** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:53 am

$2.30 and climbing

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:29 am

I've always thought that 1 US gallon is 4.4 liters, or close to that?!?

:FI:Nellip · Post by **:FI:Nellip** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:59 am

I think a gallon is about 4.5 litres.

I read something about oil prices yesterday that was predicting a per barrel price of $110-120 by the end of the year - currently around $53 I believe. Sounds unlikely to me, but scary if they are right

:FI:TacticalS! · Post by **:FI:TacticalS!** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:09 pm

In Western Canada more and more folks are running with propane in their cars. Necessity is the mother of invention. Let's invent some non-Middle East soultions.

:FI:Snoop Baron · Post by **:FI:Snoop Baron** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:17 am

What the heck is a snow tire? What the heck is snow

I feel for you m8 hope the weather sorts itself out soon

:FI:WillieOFS · Post by **:FI:WillieOFS** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 11:03 pm

Propane doesn't save any money. The MPG is WAY down compared to gas. Costs here are comparable. The conversion for dual fuels is pricey. $400 to $800USD. The tanks are 20 to 30 gal size and the range is 200 to 300 miles.

Where I work, they've been on an alterante fule kick for several years. They tried CNG and it was complete waste of time.

The only way we can come out ahead on propane is because they have a tank at the yard that you can fill up twice a day if you need to. Lately they've been buying diesel pickups instead of gas rigs that have to be converted.

The good thing aobut propane is that it is easy on the motor, because it burns clean.

:FI:TacticalS! · Post by **:FI:TacticalS!** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:05 am

Maybe so Willie but I would rather buy locally (i.e., North American natural gas/propane) than from the Middle East. Tired of "them" dictating the price world-wide.

Not that government is going to help; just like gambling, smokes and alcohol they stand the most to lose if such things disappear. We pay more in taxes than the actual gasoline here in Canada. Can we get rid of government and keep the gasoline maybe?

:FI:WillieOFS · Post by **:FI:WillieOFS** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:51 am

The real problem is gasoline production. No new refineries in the last decade.

Most of N America's oil is coming from S America as I understand.

I'm hoping that this latest BS will get the bio fuel folks off their collective asses and get them competitive.

L.F · Post by **L.F** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:40 pm

you would think that norway, as a oil produsing country migt have lower gas prices.

but NO nei nada

:FI:TacticalS! · Post by **:FI:TacticalS!** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:54 pm

I live in Saint John, New Brunswick, home of Canada's largest oil refinery. We always pay more for gasoline than even small communities a few miles out of town. You do the math.

Sapper-FIN · Post by **Sapper-FIN** » Thu Apr 14, 2005 4:02 pm

you would think that norway, as a oil produsing country migt have lower gas prices.

but NO nei nada

But that´s because Norwegian standard of living is higher than in most countries... people make more money and everything costs more... at least in a Finnish point of view, norway is an extremely expensive country... according to some EU study, your prices are 16% higher than ours...

you know what really sux, when living in scandinavia?..

CNN Reported this morning...