the current situation with the Corsair in IL2?

[Beowolff]

can ANYONE currently fly the great Corsair in this game!!!!!



i mean fly it well?

dear dog, the beast weaves and bobs all over the place for me now...and she was such a sweet thing before (if using good sense and caution on takeoffs and landings and such.) to me, even the simpliest of turns results in instant spins of death.

i've tried resetting joystick configs...but no joy.

tips and tricks appreciated.

Beo

[:FI:TacticalS!]

What?! Didn't Oleg tell you mate?

In RL no American plane actually was able to take-off successfully, let alone engage in combat against the superior aircraft of the Axis.

You didn't get the message? Just head over to the forums at UBISoft, but please ignore that one thread by a trouble-maker named Tony, who claims to be a real pilot, instructor and guy who actually flies refurbished P-51 and alike. What would he know.

So to sum it up - yes those bullets are rubberized; yes she wobbles to and fro; and all the so-called evidence to the contrary were fabricated in American movie studios. And don't get me started about that Mustang destroying a German tank with its guns. Madness I tell you sir!

My solution - I seldom fly American planes.

TS!

[:FI:Falcon]

pffft!

of course it flippin' wobbles!

somebody bent the flippin' wings!

pfffft!

[:FI:TacticalS!]

[:FI:Murph]

Beo; If you haven't already done so, get rid of the dead zone in your stick settings both in the game and in windose control panel/ calibration. I doesn't really fix it but it seems to help some.
Personnally, I think Oleg threw the US players a bone by including any non-leadlease US aircraft, and now he's gradually taking it back in the form of FM patches.

[:FI:TacticalS!]

Some are saying that the Corsair has been improved with the latest patch. Don't know personally Beo.

TS!

[Beowolff]

ya, i suppose it is 'some' better with 404m patch... less swaying when you move stick or rudder... oh it does still sway, but seems less, maybe by half...

which is better, i guess, though not enough.

i did try removing the dead zone and that maybe also helped a tad.

also, i added a touch of rudder trim (something i have NEVER had to do before in ANY flight sim) and it made an even better impression on the swaying. in fact, the rudder trim seemed to help more than the new patch did...

i dunno, the Corsair (and mustang and some others) still seem too damned herky jerky to me...too bobby...in the their flight fms... i don't get it. i know this was a very high performance fighter, lots of power, lots of speed, very manuverable---and it had its faults (it was the ensign killer after all) but i just do not believe with the swaying that we have in game---even its latest patched incarnation---was anything like in REAL life.

i've spoken to at least a dozen RL WW2 Corsair and Mustang pilots, they NEVER mentioned such instability. and the real crawdad for me is that if you fly the Axis planes---there is much LESS of that very stability problem, particually if you fly the less-technically designed Russian planes. what????????

the crude Russian factories deep in the Ural mountains and woods working mostly with hand tools and cast-off materials (not to mention completely unskilled labor) could build BETTER more STABLE high performance WW2 fighter aircraft than the US of A?

okay, okay...i get it. Oleg is Russian ain't he?



Beowolff

[:FI:Noter]

Yeah, I mean the game's only called "IL-2"... now if it was called "The Bobin' Western Allied Aircraft That are Supposed to Be a Stable Gun Platform (for the most part)". That might be fitting too.

Noter

[Beowolff]

agreed. i vote for a name change!



Beo

[:FI:Murph]

I think it should be called "Attack of the Axis Uberplanes!"

[:FI:Sneaky_Russian]

http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/F4U.html

Dont suppose that'll help the flight model tho'

[Beowolff]

nope, i know HOW to fly, sneaky... LOL... and before the screwy NEW fms, could handled the ensign eliminator pretty well.

but that flight model thingy is what gets me now with the corsair, flys like crapola...though i have to admit, with the latest 404m patch it does do some better.

though from what the word is, its only because Oleg tampered around with the game's plane joystick configs... dead-zoned 'em automatically for us, it seems, which did help some with the wobbles and such, but also made certain acrobatic manuvers ALSO impossible. go figure. not a true fix to the flight models (which is what is needed) but sort of like a placebo, to shut the wobble screamers.

evidently they just don't want to fix this game anymore... just keep putting in new stuff. for a testbed for BOB. which i can sort of understand, this game's made the bulk of the money for them that it's going to...BOB will bring in the next big haul of moola again when it comes out so testing BOB stuff in this older game is most likely smart, money wise. also, no doubt the old original IL2 code is a mish-mash, a programmer's nightmare by now, with being changed and patched and rewrote and added to a zillion times.

no doubt it's tougher than hell by now to change one small thing without changing a dozen other things...with such a coding mess. still, IL2/FB is a fine game... a shame for it to constantly stay screwed up for us. i'd lay odds that its STILL got a good play life left in it.

Beowolff

[:FI:Sneaky_Russian]

Never said you did'nt Beo ,was reading over at Ubi they got same problems with the P47. I've not done a merged install yet, waiting for AEP
to be delivered. Made a few flights with F4's on my Out-of-the-box install
and they seemed Ok. Guess I should back up my "config" files before patching and see what happens then!

Anyway that sites still worth a look, stacks of videos and info

[:FI:Sneaky_Russian]

Just done the merge and patch all the way flown a few tests and the Corsair seems rock steady maybe too steady even.

only problem I.ve got is the black control panel on video modes when I apply PERFECT.......and the Acid text

Well you cant win 'em all.

[Beowolff]

you're lucky then, Sneaky... though with 404 the Corsair is a bit more stable than it was, to most of us...its still a fragged up plane and no fun to fly in combat.

i'm glad you've got it going well on your machine though. hopefully it will stay that way as some reports i've heard, tell that at first the plane seems steady and then they make some little change somewhere (say to video drivers or something) and whammo! the squiggy nose/rudder movements kick in.

good hunting in it.

Beowolff